The contact with an alien society will not be between scientists in dark glasses playing Moog organs at night to neo con aliens on spaceships. Contact it is the work of imaginative sociologists, psychologists, writers and artists, of people with empathy and understanding and maturity.
The point about the UFO phenomenon is that, as far as ordinary people are concerned, it does not affect our lives and therefore it is simply not relevant.
In my own single witness of what seems to have been a UFO, I simply couldn't see the relevance of it. It hung like a ball bearing in the sky. What can you say? Nothing.
We humans need to assume motives to each other and assume shared knowledge. We can't communicate otherwise, we have to be able to model each others thoughts before we speak. But what Theory of Mind (TOM) can we have of an alien race. Anything we think about them will simply be speculation. We can have a million questions. But the problem remains.
But assuming they have been around and they are here and if they do have an objective, then presumably it's rather dramatic. They probably haven't gone to so much trouble to come here just to hang out or 'study us'. The truth is probably more cataclysmic. The truth about the alien presence is probably closer to a combination of the reality of the Hitchhiker's Guide and the Culture.
The problem with most scientists is that though they have often claimed the authority to organize society along rational lines. Their forebears, the priesthoods, with the best calendars actually did organize society.
But scientists as a group are a sample of humanity known for being rather conservative, male, intolerant and lacking in feeling and common humanity. They are accustomed to objectifying and classifying. Of course the scientific vision of extraterrestrial society will be impoverished and based on categorization and quantification.
Think how at most levels numbers and rationalism in our societies are mere enabling factors, not key determinants, in the way we relate to each other and get what we want.
If you want to be afraid, be afraid of a culture that is rational without being fully moral and human. A Nazi culture, a culture that employs selective breeding, a society that ultimately, in the name of rationalism will turn back on itself and chew on its own genetic tail. That creates itself. Pekineses and Great Dane. Aldous Huxley's human breeding farms. An ET culture that was 'rational' would be proto-fascist, of course.
We can't see extraterrestrials, they are hidden behind the mirror of their alien minds. So we see ourselves in the mirror. Hollywood, revealingly, sees Aliens as imperialists and invaders because they see their reflection. US grunts fight alien grunts:
'Grunt, grunt, grunt.' So to speak.
What is the evidence we have not for the existence of ETs on Earth. There seems to be quite a bit of that, but where is the evidence for the way they think and what they want and how they see the world? That's the non sequitur.That's why the problem of an alien presence simply doesn't compute.
Going back to the evidence for UFOs however
The following witnesses are from the disclosure project in 2001.
Merle Shane McDow: US Navy Atlantic Command
Lt. Col. Charles Brown: US Air Force (Ret.)
"Dr. B"
Lance Corporal Jonathan Weygandt: US Marine Corps
Maj. George A. Filer, III: US Air Force (Ret.)
Nick Pope: British Ministry of Defense Official
Larry Warren: US Air Force, Security Officer
Sgt. Clifford Stone: US Army
Master Sgt. Dan Morris: US Air Force, NRO Operative
A.H.: Boeing Aerospace Employee
Officer Alan Godfrey: British Police
Sgt. Karl Wolf: US Air Force
Ms. Donna Hare: NASA Employee
Mr. John Maynard: DIA Official
Dr. Robert Wood: McDonnell Douglas Aerospace Engineer
Glen Dennis: NM UFO Crash Witness
Sgt. Leonard Pretko: US Air Force
Dr. Roberto Pinotti: Italian UFO expert
Dr. Paul Czysz: McDonnell Douglas Career Engineer
Astronaut Edgar Mitchell
John Callahan: FAA Head of Accidents and Investigations
Michael Smith: US Air Force Radar Controller
Franklin Carter: US Navy Radar Technician
Neil Daniels: United Airlines Pilot
Lt. Frederick Fox: US Navy Pilot
Captain Robert Salas: US Air Force, SAC Launch Controller
Prof. Robert Jacobs: US Air Force
Harry Allen Jordan: US Navy
James Kopf: US Navy Crypto Communications
Witness Testimony Overview
Astronaut Edgar Mitchell: May 1998
Monsignor Corrado Balducci: September 2000
Radar and Pilot Cases
FAA Division Chief John Callahan
Sgt. Chuck Sorrells: US Air Force (ret.)
Mr. Michael W. Smith: US Air Force
Commander Graham Bethune: US Navy (ret.)
Mr. Enrique Kolbeck: Senior Air Traffic Controller,
Dr. Richard Haines
Mr. Franklin Carter: US Navy
Neil Daniels: Airline Pilot
Sgt. Robert Blazina (ret.)
Lieutenant Frederick Marshall Fox: US Navy (ret.)
Captain Massimo Poggi
Lt. Bob Walker: US Army
Mr. Don Bockelman: US Army
SAC/Nuke
Captain Robert Salas
Professor Robert Jacobs: Lt. US Air Force
Lt. Colonel Dwynne Arneson: US Air Force (ret.)
Colonel Ross Dedrickson: US Air Force/AEC (ret.)
Harry Allen Jordan: US Navy
Mr. James Kopf: US Navy/ National Security Agency
Lieutenant Colonel Joe Wojtecki, US Air Force
Staff Sergeant Stoney Campbell: US Air Force
Government Insiders/ NASA/ Deep Insiders
Astronaut Gordon Cooper
Merle Shane McDow: US Navy Atlantic Command
Lieutenant Colonel Charles Brown: US Air Force (ret.), October
Dr. Carol Rosin
“Dr. B.”
Lance Corporal John Weygandt: U.S. Marine Corps,
Major A. Filer III: U.S. Air Force
Mr. Nick Pope: British Ministry Of Defense
Admiral Lord Hill-Norton: Five-Star Admiral, Former Head of the British Ministry of Defense
Security Officer Larry Warren: United States Air Force,
Captain Lori Rehfeldt
Sergeant Clifford Stone: United States Army
Major-General Vasily Alexeyev: Russian Air Force,
Master Sergeant Dan Morris: US Air Force/NRO Operative (ret.)
Mr. Don Phillips: Lockheed Skunkworks, USAF, and CIA Contractor
Captain Bill Uhouse: US Marine Corps (ret.)
Lieutenant Colonel John Williams: US Air Force (ret.)
Mr. Don Johnson
A.H.: Boeing Aerospace, December 2000
British Police Officer Alan Godfrey
Mr. Gordon Creighton: Former British Foreign Service Official
Sergeant Karl Wolfe: US Air Force
Donna Hare: Former NASA Employee
Mr. John Maynard: Defense Intelligence Agency (ret.)
Mr. Harland Bentley: US Army
Dr. Robert Wood: McDonnell Douglas Aerospace Engineer,
Dr. Alfred Webre: Senior Policy Analyst Stanford Research Institute
Denise McKenzie: Former SAIC employee
Mr. Paul H. Utz
Colonel Phillip J. Corso, Sr.: US Army (ret.)
Mr. Glen Dennis
Lieutenant Walter Haut: US Navy
Buck Sergeant Leonard Pretko: US Air Force
Mr. Dan Willis: US Navy
Dr. Roberto Pinotti
Technology/Science
Mr. Mark McCandlish: US Air Force
Professor Paul Czysz
Dr. Hal Puthoff
David Hamilton: Department of Energy
Lieutenant Colonel Thomas E. Bearden: US Army (ret)
Dr. Eugene Mallove
Dr. Paul La Violette
Mr. Fred Threlfall: Royal Canadian Air Force
Dr. Ted Loder
That or the gorilla experiment. Anyone notice the gorilla? The gorilla list of names of the witnesses.
Just because something is highly improbable, doesn't mean it isn't true. Lots of ordinary people suffer from a dire case of high probability thinking.
All sheep are white until you see one black sheep and you have to revise your conclusion. ie. Not all sheep are black.The most amazing thing of all are the vast alien bases on the dark side of the moon. Mitchell, Aldrin Cooper are astronauts who say the UFO phenomenon is real: Russian cosmonauts confirm the UFO phenomenon is real with personal testimony.
Many cosmonauts agree with them:
COSMONAUT MAJOR GENERAL VLADIMIR KOVALYONOK
Saljut VI Mission 1981
COSMONAUT MUSA MANAROV,
MIR:MIR mission 1991
COSMONAUT GENNADIJ STREKHALOV,
MIRMIR mission 1990
COSMONAUT GENERAL PAVEL ROMANOWICH POPOVICH
Soviet Air Force
COL. GENERAL GENNADIJ RESHETNIKOV
Head of the General Zhukov High Command Academy of Air Defense, Tver;Former High Commander of Air Defense of the Far East
MAJOR GENERAL VASILY ALEXEYEV
Russian Air Force Space Communications Center Moscow
Often rational skeptics have a problem with accepting the existence of UFOs despite the witness testimonies and the evidence. Kuhn's observation helps explain why:
A scientific community cannot practice its trade without some set of received beliefs. These beliefs form the foundation of the "educational initiation that prepares and licenses the student for professional practice". The nature of the "rigorous and rigid" preparation helps ensure that the received beliefs are firmly fixed in the student's mind. Scientists take great pains to defend the assumption that scientists know what the world is like...To this end, "normal science" will often suppress novelties which undermine its foundations. Research is therefore not about discovering the unknown, but rather "a strenuous and devoted attempt to force nature into the conceptual boxes supplied by professional education"
The Structure of Scientific Revolutions by Thomas S. Kuhn (synopsis by Professor Frank Pajares)
I challenge you to listen to the venerable Dr. Robert Wood, Retired Deputy Director of McDonnell Douglas on the evidence for UFOs (IFOs) and not seriously consider the very real possibility that UFOS are real and they are of extraterrestrial origin.VideoOthers down the right hand side.Listen to Captain Salas who worked in a Missile Base on how UFOs shut down his and other missile bases.What happened?Videos in sequence down the right hand side
Dear Sir or Ma'am,
ReplyDeleteThe comments pertaining to Robert Salas' claims as a UFO expert as a result of his experiences during the alleged UFO events at Echo Flight and Oscar Flight in March 1967 fail to take into account the widely known facts of Salas' very poor credibility and his numerous lies to the public. There were no UFOs involved at Echo Flight at all, and the incident at Oscar Flight never even happened. The men who have spread these lies, primarily Robert Salas and Robert Hastings, have done so for their own benefit, and they have proven to be both dishonest and wrong on numerous occasions in numerous ways. I would recommend that if you are truly interested in knowing what actually occured at Malmstrom AFB in March 1967 you go to the following URLs, where you can download at no cost the book and supporting articles discussing the case:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/26641522/Americans-Credulous-by-James-Carlson
http://www.scribd.com/doc/42303580/Echo-Flights-of-Fantasy-Anatomy-of-a-UFO-Hoax-by-James-Carlson
http://www.scribd.com/doc/49495918/The-Bunny-s-Retort-by-James-Carlson
I would also recommend that you examine the numerous interviews and articles at the Reality Uncovered website: http://www.realityuncovered.net/ -- the top seven articles all discuss the events at Echo Flight in March 1967, and include interviews with both the commander and the deputy commander at Echo Flight on March 16, 1967 when the missiles were taken offline by an electronic noise pulse.
A lot information regarding this incident can also be found at the Reality Uncovered forum, in particular the Echo Flight Incident thread: http://www.realityuncovered.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=1688&sid=fb3fd24f098c0f3bc35595ea1b41a146.
Tim Hebert, an ex-USAF missileer himself, has also written some enlightening articles regarding the case on his blog at: http://timhebert.blogspot.com/
Dr. David Clarke, for many years an accepted expert regarding the British military forces' investigations of the UFO phenomenon for many years, has also discussed this case in the context of the "UFO and NUkes" connection asserted by author Robert Hastings. You can read his article on the subject at http://drdavidclarke.blogspot.com/2010/11/flat-earth-nukes.html.
The lies currently being spread by Robert Hastings and Robert Salas have not merely been outed as an irresponsible interpretation of the actual events, they have been repeatedly proven to be lies as a result of both witness testimony and documented evidence. There is no doubt whatsoever that they created this case for their own benefit. There were no UFOs involved -- it is a lie, and nothing more.
As for other possible UFO cases, I doubt that alien spacecraft were involved, but other than that, I really have no opinion. Frankly, I don't know very much about other cases, and would never, for that reason, venture to put forth my own opinions as more viable than another's.
Thank you,
James Carlson
jtcarl@yahoo.com
Albuquerque, NM
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ReplyDeleteJames.
Thank you for your considered and thoughtful reply.
I will read it with care and attention and respond shortly.